- We already have more players than we can comfortably coordinate, so selection of new players is competitive. New players must be in an exceptionally good position. We don’t mean having good wheels to play. We can already beat almost every wheel. An example of an exception is you may be a recognized “high roller” in your casino and able to make very large bets without arousing suspicion.
- The upside of “pay as you play” is you can use the Hybrid computer without much up-front cost. The downside is unless you play with high stakes, you may only be able to play very rarely (even as rarely as once a year). This is because you share the Hybrid servers and operators with many other players. The only way to play as often as you like is to purchase the Hybrid.
Basically we have hundreds of players who have registered. We cannot possibly accommodate all players. But rather than completely close registrations, we’re keeping them open in case the situation changes. All we can assure you of is we’ll file your application and keep you in mind.
The Basics of How It Works
For more information about the Hybrid roulette computer, see www.hybridroulettecomputer.com. Basically it uses a hidden camera to send video of a roulette wheel outside the casino to a server. The server processes the video and predicts the winning number, which is then sent via the Internet to bettors at the table. It is extremely accurate and covert to use. It is LEGAL to use in approximately half of the casinos worldwide. We NEVER apply it where it’s illegal. It is a condition that players only apply it legally.
The equipment costs approximately US$1,700 for a three-player team. You buy the equipment from any supplier you want. Its yours to keep and you never need to send it to us. We send you the software to install on your phone. Then to use the Hybrid, you pay “whatever you want”. The catch is we give preferential access to the “highest paying teams”. Basically the highest bidders get access to the servers, because we have limited servers and operators who oversee users. So if you only pay $100 when other teams pay us $10,000, we’ll of course only work with the higher paying team.
The Different Types of Players
Please note the following definitions:
Server Operators: These are the Hybrid roulette computer server administrators to ensure smooth operation. They can see any data sent to the server. Upon request, they will send you data relating to the accuracy of predictions.
Camera users: The players who wear hidden cameras. Usually only ONE is needed for each team.
Bettors: The players who place bets. They hear the predicted numbers in an invisible wireless earpiece. Each team may have 1-3 bettors.
Blockers: Players who don’t use any electronic equipment at all. They just occupy important spaces around the wheel to ensure the camera has a clear view of the wheel.
Generally “blockers” are paid the lowest share of profits because they have the least responsibility. But each player’s share is something you decide between yourselves.
General Requirements For “Players”
We do not accept all people who wish to use the Service. We have our own internal selection process. Some of our considerations are below:
- Honest and trustworthy: We only want to deal with honest people. We shouldn’t need to tell you what is right or wrong. Also sometimes things don’t go as planned. But you need to accept any risk and not blame others. If things go wrong, don’t go releasing information to casinos out of spite. You’ll be harming people with families who are trying to earn a living.
- Teams that are already formed: it’s much easier to work with teams that are already organized.
- Live near suitable casinos: Travel is expensive and we don’t want you spending thousands just to scout for suitable wheels. You can still travel if you choose, but it’s not as convenient as living near casinos.
- Ample available time: you should have a predictable schedule and a reasonable amount of time. If you are a full time student or have a full time job, you probably wont be able to find enough time.
- Calm under pressure: You need to be comfortable in the casino environment. You can’t be skittish if casino staff look at you. Illegal use is against the terms of service, so you would not be breaking laws anyway. However, you may be playing against the casino’s rules. The most they can do is ban you.
- Patient: If you are over-eager and impatient, it can lead to costly mistakes.
- Motivated for the right reasons: We don’t want players who have a passing interest. We want people who have thought about this carefully, are dedicated, and motivated to increase the quality of theirs and their family’s life. We don’t want greedy people.
- Already self-funded and financially secure: If you can’t afford to risk loss, this opportunity is not for you. There is always a risk of loss and you need to accept it. You should have at least $2,000 in bankroll that you can afford to lose if things go wrong.
- NO gambling or other serious personal problems: You need to be stable and play for the right reasons.
- Real name and any private information about yourself must remain secret: For the agreements you must reveal your real name to us, although it will never be disclosed to anyone else for any reason. But NEVER give your real name or ANY personal information to another player. Give fake names and never disclose information about yourself such as addresses or private phone numbers. Expect others to do the same. Often there are arguments between players and it can lead to threats and various nasty behavior, such as sending information to casinos. The best policy is never give other players any private information about yourself.
When you apply, please be honest and do not mislead me about your personal circumstances. Please also be honest with yourself. Otherwise it can affect the whole team later. You do NOT need to have a team of your own to apply, because you can join existing teams or form a team with other players.
A $100 bankroll can become $1,000 in a few hours. But its hardly worth the time for a team of several players. So you should have a minimum bankroll of $2,000 to begin but it depends on the size of your bets. You should aim to achieve your target profit in the least time possible.
Below are three different examples of typical results if you bet on 30 spins during the “play phase”. The examples are if you are betting with $25, $50 and $100 units:
The setup phase is what usually takes time. Usually we need 60+ spins per direction to tell us how profitable the wheel is. But the period in which you bet on computer predictions is usually relatively short, and normally not more than 20 spins.
Beating wheels is usually quite easy. The main issue is avoiding detection. The recommended strategies to avoid detection (and maximize winnings) are explained in detail to players. And although you can have a strong edge, short term play sometimes results in a loss. But it is easily recovered with continued play. So you need a balance between avoiding detection and winning enough.
Payments for the Service
We do not request “profit splits” and this is not a “partnership”. You are paying for a “Service”. Basically you pay “whatever you want”. But if you pay too little, then higher paying teams will receive priority access to the Hybrid servers. Any expenses incurred by you are your own. All we do is provide the Service as per the terms and conditions.
Understanding Your Risks of Loss
In real casino play, the typical stages for play are:
- Scouting: wheels and casinos are briefly considered. This costs nothing except travel and car parking.
- Wheel evaluation: The “camera user” makes minimum bets at the table for approximately 60-120 spins. Sometimes “blockers” are used (other players who ensure the camera has a clear view). The bets keep them at the table while the computer collects data and assesses prediction accuracy. If the player makes a $5 bet on each spin, they can expect to lose no more than $20 per player. So the loss is very small.
- Consideration of all data: The players can assess the accuracy and analysis data from the server, so they understand the wheel ratings and the expected profit IF application continued. This usually gives the players a clear idea of how accurate the predictions are, so they understand the risks. Then they can choose whether or not they want to proceed.
- Play or moving on: If the players decide not to play, they can focus on another wheel instead. But if the players decide to play, then the predictions will be sent to the bettors using covert equipment.
So before significant money is risked, the players will have a reliable idea of how profitable the wheel is likely to be. Sometimes the edge is very clear, and sometimes not. It is up to the players to decide what risks they are prepared to take. The operator may send statistical data, but players need to understand the data, what it all means, and any associated risks.
Generally if the evaluation is done properly, then there is little risk when roulette computer betting commences. But there is always the chance that the ball bounce will be significantly different on future spins. Simply the more data the team has, the more time and money it takes to get the data, but the clearer the accuracy rate becomes. If you are going to make large bets with the computer, it is better to lose another $20 or so to get additional data before proceeding.
But even if accuracy is very high, there are other factors that can lead to loss. For example, the casino staff may detect the players, then the only option is to leave – regardless of the current bankroll. Although even if it did happen, it is easy to recover funds in other casinos.
A common issue is if the player works alone without any additional players. So they may only have time to place 1 bet per spin. This is ok for the long-term, but it means in the short-term, you may have a lot of “near wins” (ball lands just next to the prediction). This means you can lose money despite having a strong edge. It almost never happens if multiple bettors are used because more numbers are covered. More details are explained on this page.
Additional Expenses For Players (Equipment & Mobile Internet Access)
Mobile 4G Internet Access
The Hybrid V3 (remote version) streams live video outside the casino via wireless 4G GSM internet. This will be done from the phone used by “camera users”. But mobile internet is much more expensive than home Internet, and the cost must be paid by the bettor. It costs about $10 of data transfer per hour of play for the player with the hidden camera. In cases where the internet connection is poor, two phones are used to send the data to ensure a more reliable connection. This doubles the internet costs to around $20 per hour. The data transfer is about 300kb/sec for one phone, or 600kb/sec for two phones.
The other “bettors” only receive predicted numbers. For them, the data transfer is about 0.1MB per spin. The Hybrid uses an independent server for all data encryption. The Hybrid server itself uses a different connection. The encryption server hosting and internet connections for the Hybrid server are our responsibility as the Service provider. Basically anyone who uses an Internet connection must pay for their own.
“Blockers” don’t need any equipment, and the only additional expense they have is small random bets to stay at the table.
If you are using the $0.00 up-front option, we do not normally supply the hardware. Usually you can easily find everything you need on Ebay for around US$500 in total. You can also purchase induction loops and earpieces from us if you want. We can also supply phones but it is easier if you find another supplier because we cannot ship lithium batteries (Australian regulations). Below is a brief explanation of what each player needs:
- Your own bankroll for betting (at least $2,000)
- About $500 for equipment purchase (from Ebay)
- About $100 in random bets to stay at the table (while the computer collects data)
- Your own bankroll for betting (at least $2,000)
- About $500 for equipment purchase (from Ebay)
- About $100 in random bets to stay at the table (to blend in with other players)
- Your own bankroll for betting (at least $2,000)
- About $100 in random bets to stay at the table
- NO equipment is needed
* Normally all players contribute to the bankroll
Frequently Asked Questions
Q. What is the equipment I must buy?
If you purchase outright, I send you everything. But if you take the $0.00 up-front option, the “camera user” and “bettors” need various equipment such as a phone each. I send you precise details if you become a player. You buy from any supplier you want, and the equipment is yours to keep. It never needs to be sent to us. Approximate costs of what you must buy are explained above. The costs will vary depending on where you purchase.
Q. Can you send me equipment for free if I take the $0.00 up-front option?
No. Previously I did, but many people wasted my time and did not dedicate any time to play, and didn’t even bother to return the equipment I paid for. This is despite such players promising they wouldn’t do this. So now if you take the $0.00 up-front option, you must purchase your own equipment.
Q. Is it possible I buy all the equipment then never get a fair chance at using the Hybrid?
No because we’ll ensure you get a fair chance. It doesn’t matter if your first few sessions aren’t productive at all, because most players don’t profit the first 2-3 sessions anyway. But with some experience, a player can earn very large sums. Unless you were paying us a very small amount, you’ll still get access to use the Hybrid, although higher paying teams get higher priority.
Q. What gets installed on the phone?
We send you specific software to install on the phone. It is so you can send the server live video of the wheel, and/or receive the predicted numbers from the server.
Q. Which roulette computer version is used?
Only the Hybrid V3 remote version (the best we’ve ever created).
Q. Can lone players be the Operator, Camera User and Bettor to play alone?
Yes a player can play alone, but we focus on team play with large stakes.
Q. Whose bankroll is used for bets?
Players use their own bankroll. We are just the service provider.
Q. Is there a risk of losing?
There’s always a risk of losing, but the wheels are properly evaluated before any bets are made. The evaluation gives about a 90% accurate idea of the results to expect. You will clearly understand the evaluation procedure and why it is so accurate, so you will have a good idea of the risk of losing. Usually if a loss is made, it has nothing to do with the accuracy of the computers – it would be for a reason like the team had too much attention on them, they couldn’t risk continued play, and just happened to leave after short-term unlucky losses. But in such a case, another team or bettor may continue the attack, in which case you would likely be compensated for any time you invested.
Q. Wont the casino notice players constantly winning, even if the bettors constantly change?
Yes, eventually they may notice because most casinos monitor the winnings/losses of each wheel. This is the only real limit to the winnings. But it is quite easy to remain undetected, even over long periods, if the winnings are not greater than losses from ordinary players.
Q. Is there any contract?
The terms are at http://www.roulettephysics.com/computer-service-terms/
Q. Exactly what is the wheel assessment procedure, and is it difficult?
It is very simple but you need reasonable eyesight to be able to do it. If you have average vision, you wont have problems. If you have quite poor eyesight, it is still fine in most cases, but you will find it more difficult. I only reveal the exact procedure if you are a suitable applicant. There is also a lot of other research you’ll need to do, which is in relation to the casino’s procedures.
Q. Who are the operators?
They are our staff.
Q. What happens if I use the service in a real casino and I’m caught? Will I be charged by police?
You must never play where it is illegal. If you are detected by casino staff, the most that usually happens is you are asked to leave and possibly banned. But it is more likely the dealer will just call no more bets earlier until you leave. But if you play illegally, then you may be charged. Illegal use of the Service is forbidden. There are no exceptions to this, and besides there are plenty of legal places to play.
Q. Do you tell us where it’s legal?
We already know many jurisdictions which are legal or illegal, from our own research, and research from players. But we are not legal advisers, so we cannot give you legal advice. But you can find out for free with some research. You can ask local gaming authorities using a fake name. We can give you a template email to send them. Or you can hire a solicitor to find out for you, which usually costs around $1000-$2000 per jurisdiction you want to investigate.
Q. How much bankroll will I need to play?
This is explained in detail on this page. You need both bankroll to play, and additional funds for random bets while you collect data.
Q. What training and support is provided?
You get unlimited free training and support. We want to ensure your success, so we make sure you are properly trained.
Q. What happens if I and the team lose?
Every player is responsible for their own losses. If a loss would be detrimental to you, then you are not in a suitable position to play. There is always a risk of loss.
Purchase vs Service Options
If you are unsure whether you want to purchase a computer OR or join the “computer service” program, the below comparison of options will help you decide.
- You keep all winnings
- You don’t need to compete with other teams who “bid” higher fees to access the Hybrid server. You can play when you want, and with any size bets.
- Higher startup costs
- Lower initial investment
- You pay more in the long-term
- With lower bids you may rarely or never have access
Basically if you are a “service” player with the $0.00 up-front option, you pay “whatever you want” but it is like an arrangement where you “bid” the highest to get access. You are unlikely to have regular access with bids less than $2,000. So the “computer service” option is best suited to part-time players who play with large stakes. If you want freedom to play whenever you want, and to keep all of your winnings, then “purchasing” is a better option for you.
If You Play Alone
Generally if you don’t have a team, we will find one for you. But if for some reason it’s only possible for you to play alone, you may only have time to make 1-3 bets per spin (on real tables). It’s still ok in the long term, but it means you need to spend longer in the casino to profit. This is because the fewer numbers you bet, the greater the chance of you having lots of “near wins”. For example, you might have a 50% edge and bet just one number. But on 100 spins, the ball may land lots of times 1 pocket either side of the prediction, but not directly on your bet. So you will have lost money despite a large edge. But if you bet perhaps 5 numbers, then you may profit after just a few spins. Consider two situations below.
Situation 1: Single player betting 1 number per spin for 100 spins:
Situation 2: Team of 3 bettors making 2-3 bets per spin
Explanation of the differences:
- Additional bettors only listen to the predicted numbers and bet. They sit in place to reach more numbers, and can comfortably bet on 2-3 numbers per spin.
- Despite the lower edge with multiple bettors, the team wins more in 1/5th of the spins (20 instead of 100 spins). This is around an hour less time in the casino. More players means each player receives less per session. But still everyone still earns more because the team can more quickly move to the next casino.
- The operator spends much less time working with a team than a lone player. So they earn more for their time, and are more likely to give preference to the higher paying team.
Dividing Winnings Between Players
It’s up to you how you share winnings with your team. But also keep in mind the amount you pay the operator will determine whether or not they’ll work with you again. Naturally they’ll focus on teams that pay better.
Be aware that money often leads to arguments because not everyone agrees with how profits should be divided. So have clear agreements with other players.
Finding Additional Players and Forming Your Own Team
If you play alone and don’t have a team, often I can introduce you to others – but not always. It is best you find your own team members who meet the below criteria:
- Someone you can trust and know well (like a family member or close friend)
- Has experience in the real casino environment (betting is not difficult, but you need someone with at least some experience)
- Someone who has their own bankroll (people are more careful with their own money)
- Calm under pressure
- Understands and accepts the risks of loss are their own. Losses can and do occur in the short term. Anything can happen in the short term, and we can’t control all conditions. Remember even a casino can make a loss. But if you have a long-term edge, and play enough spins correctly, you’ll eventually profit.
Be very careful about anyone you bring into your team. Many partnerships have turned sour and quite nasty because money is involved. It is very important that you have clear agreements with partners.
If you want to be a player who only bets, submit the below application form and select “I want to bet only” in the “payment option” menu. Then we’ll try and find a suitable team for you. But keep in mind often we can’t find a place for players, because most teams won’t trust strangers. So it is better you form your own team.
How To Apply
Anyone qualified by the terms of service is eligible. Please complete the below form to apply.