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Public Roulette Computer Demo RESULTS (13th Nov)
« on: November 18, 2010, 02:01:07 PM »
The demo on Saturday went very well. I recorded it all, but it's at least 4 hours of footage for the computer demo part alone. To actual players I can send DVDs of the full demo but may censor a few things like about my own teams. Otherwise it'd be uncensored. I need to work out pricing for it but it wont be much.

Excluding myself and the security guard, 9 people attended. I dont want to make them too large or it all gets impersonal. I'll need to do another public demo in a few weeks as there are roughly 30-40 other people who want to attend, so one more demo before christmas.

I will be publicly releasing parts of the video - it'll be available via download. First I need to censor parts and figure out which segments are most relevant.

Below is a general outline of how the actual computer demonstration component went:

1. We did about 60 spins. It took a few hours because there were a lot of questions in between. Predictions were made when there is over 13 seconds before the ball actually fell. We used a very bouncy ivorine ball. The velstone mk7 huxley wheel was used. They were not easy conditions.

2. One of the participants tracked the diamond hits. There were THREE dominant diamonds, which where 2 verticals and one horizontal. I think the two verticals were 180 degrees off each other - I have to check back.

3. The accuracy after calibration was when betting 15 numbers, wins occured on approximately 90% of spins. Yes, that means we got a win on almost every spin. Rest assured there were plenty of spins and loads of data for statistics buffs who later want to analyze the probability of "luck". Clearly from everyone's feedback and reactions of both the computer's data and the accuracy of predictions, everyone knew they were seeing the real thing.

4. At the very end, I disassembled the wheel to show there were no modifications like magnets. It was witnessed by I think the last 4 people who left. This was also recorded.

So the accuracy was very good. I recall when Ronjo did his testing www.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com he got 100% of the predictions in the correct whee half and that was with 4 dominant diamonds (3 vertical and 1 horizontal). But that was with the more advanced settings, plus he considered 18 numbers, not 15 like Saturday's demo. So much for "difficulty" in beating wheels with multiple dominant diamonds.. In the recent public demo, I used only basic settings - well, basic for my computer.

A few of the participants expressed to me they had read everything about me there is to read, including trash from clowns like howe, forester and bago. We had a bit of chuckle about them and what they do - yes they are a joke. Howe apparently lost the plot over the weekend but I wont get into that - he's a very jealous and desperate person.

I will make available relatively uncensored DVDs (or downloads) to some people. The only parts I'd censor are more about my teams. Some parts will be available to everyone via download.

After the computer demo, I taught participants a basic visual ballistics method - it was my thanks for them attending. I'm thinking of releasing video of that so people know more about what I teach.

Again I'll be releasing segments of the recorded video. You dont see the participants, except for the occasional hand or foot, but you hear everything they ask and ask and say. The video is focused on the wheel so existing players can test their computer on the same footage.

Also I demonstrated one of the new hybrids - formerly 'super computer'. Players were shown how it basically worked. But it is not for sale anyway. I recorded showing them it, but all you see is bodies move past the camera to take a closer look, and hear their comments. The focus of the demo was on the standard computer though.

If anyone wants to attend the next public demo, see http://www.genuinewinner.com/demonstrations/

Regarding the video I'll release of the event, it is many hours of footage. It'll take me at least a few days to censor parts. I could release the whole video and just censor parts of the audio, but even that will be an enormous download. I'll announce the download link(s) here when ready.

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Re: Public Roulette Computer Demo RESULTS (13th Nov)
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2010, 10:25:50 AM »
steve do you have video of this event?

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Re: Public Roulette Computer Demo RESULTS (13th Nov)
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2010, 11:23:35 AM »
Yes see members area

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Re: Public Roulette Computer Demo RESULTS (13th Nov)
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2010, 04:51:34 PM »
Update on the video/audio of the November 13th roulette computer demo:

There's a lot more video/video than I thought. I'm about 25% through censoring it (for public viewing). It'll take me a whole day of work to complete it, but I simply don't have that kind of time so i'll do it in parts. I aim to release it by the end of the upcoming week. Also next week I'll set a date for the next public demo. If you want to attend, submit www.genuinewinner.com/conference.htm but keep in mind the demos I'm doing lately are strictly for the roulette computers, NOT the non-electronic system. Although I teach attendees basic visual ballistics as my thanks for attending.

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Re: Public Roulette Computer Demo RESULTS (13th Nov)
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2010, 04:08:55 PM »
how do get this stev? the good video version

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Re: Public Roulette Computer Demo RESULTS (13th Nov)
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2010, 04:56:31 PM »
The FIRST part of the public roulette computer recording is below:

http://www.genuinewinner.com/part1censored.wma
(17.4MB - a bit over an hour of audio)

A few points:

* This is just audio. It is censored so in many parts, the sound is muted.

*The full and unedited video and audio (almost completely unedited) is available to players only. I'll release it soon after I'm done with the censored version.

* It is long and tedious. Nothing much is happening in the first parts, but everyone can still learn from them. It is more for the people that want to use their brains when dickwads like forester, bago and howe claim I never do public demos. The more relevant parts of this demo are towards the end (in other parts coming soon). At the next public demo, I'll demonstrate Howe's and Forester's latest & greatest (not so great) devices, and will make it very clear who the scammers and manipulators are.

* 9 people attended this particular demo. A few were a bit late though which is why you hear new people turn up in other parts. While other public demos have been larger, if they are more than 10, everything gets impersonal and people don't learn as much.

* I'm planning the next demo for Saturday 18th December, but first need to confirm bookings so it isnt set yet. Register interest at www.genuinewinner.com/conference.htm

* At this stage I do not intend to release recordings of other demonstrations - one is enough, and it takes loads of time to censor everything.

Really with everything that has been published, and all the proof available, you'd have to be blind to not know morons like bago, forester and howe are just as I say they are. I get tired of enlightening ignorant people about it all. Everyone can decide for themselves.

IN THIS DEMO, WE COVERED 15 NUMBERS, AND THE ACCURACY WAS APPROXIMATELY 90% HIT RATE - YOU HEAR ALL OF THIS IN THE LATER STAGES OF THE RECORDING. IF YOU PAY ATTENTION TO THE DETAILS, YOU'LL KNOW IT IS NOT AN "EASY" WHEEL TO BEAT.

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Re: Public Roulette Computer Demo RESULTS (13th Nov)
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2010, 11:34:25 AM »
I'm simply not going to have the time before Christmas to do another 'public' demo, especially since they are on Saturdays. But I can book private demos if there is intent to purchase on the day following a satisfactory demo. To organize this, submit www.genuinewinner.com/conference.htm and specify you have intent to purchase on the day.

The next public demo will need to be roughly mid to late january - i'll announce dates when booked.

If you are already a player and want to attend for practise or training, possibly you can sit in on private demos, but the problem is the first part would be nothing new to you as it'll cover only the basics. And if we get into advanced application, it confuses the hell out of the newby. Depending on how many present players want to meet up, I may make an entirely seperate day for you.

PS - i'm uploading part 2 of the audio from the previous public demo. I'll post that soon.

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Re: Public Roulette Computer Demo RESULTS (13th Nov)
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2010, 11:52:02 AM »

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Re: Public Roulette Computer Demo RESULTS (13th Nov)
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2010, 05:00:14 PM »
The following email was just broadcasted - it sums it up with all links to videos/audio:

On the 13th November, I held a public demonstration of my roulette computer devices explained at www.roulettecomputers.com. The event was recorded and is now publicly available for download as per below. There is approximately 3 hours of recording for the whole thing, but I've also made available cut/shorter segments which show only the most important parts.
 
IN THIS DEMO, WE COVERED 15 NUMBERS, AND THE ACCURACY WAS APPROXIMATELY 90% HIT RATE - IN OTHER WORDS, WE COVERED 15 NUMBERS AND WON ON ALMOST EVERY SPIN. YOU HEAR ALL OF THIS IN THE LATER STAGES OF THE RECORDING. IF YOU PAY ATTENTION TO THE DETAILS, YOU'LL KNOW IT IS NOT AN "EASY" WHEEL TO BEAT.
 
Before you download, please note the following:
 
* Only the audio is available to the public. It is censored in many parts - the sound is muted usually for only brief periods, but sometimes for over a minute at a time.
 
*The full and unedited video and audio (almost completely unedited) is available to players only. This will be available soon via the player only forum at www.genuinewinner.com/forum/
 
* The full length version is long and tedious. Nothing much happens in the earlier parts, but everyone can still learn from them if you are serious about beating roulette. The more relevant parts of this demo are towards the end, although you can download only them if you choose (see "segment 1" as below). At the next public demo, I'll demonstrate 'competing devices' to make clear who are manipulating and scamming people with ineffective devices. On this note, from the recorded video of this public demo, two 'competing computers' on the same spins achieved about a third of the accuracy that I demonstrated, and another achieved random results. Note that this is even when my device used its most basic settings. Purchasers of these other devices, who also purchased our device, have confirmed this and that the 'competitors' are indeed manipulators. In fact one of the reasons I conduct these public demonstrations is to expose blatant lies from manipulators.
 
* 9 people attended this particular demo. A few were a bit late though which is why you hear new people turn up in later. While other public demos have been larger, if there are over 10 attendees, everything gets impersonal and people don't learn as much.
 
* The next public demonstration will be held mid January. You can register to attend at www.genuinewinner.com/conference.htm - I will not be holding further demos before Christmas. However, if you have intent to actually purchase, private demonstrations can be done virtually anytime.
 
* At this stage I do not intend to release recordings of other demonstrations - one is enough, and it takes a lot of time to censor sensitive parts.
 
* Last time I released a video, my server was extremely bogged down with many people downloading at the same time. So if you experience difficulties with either the websites or files, please try later.
 
Below is a list of parts now ready for download:
 
Part 1 of public roulette computer demo (17.8MB):
http://www.genuinewinner.com/part1censored.wma
 
Part 2 of public roulette computer demo (14.1MB):
http://www.genuinewinner.com/part2censored.wma
 
Part 3 of public roulette computer demo (15.5MB):
http://www.genuinewinner.com/part3censored.wma
 
The above is the whole thing (censored), EXCLUDING the part reserved only for actual players (the part where the existing players remain behind for support and training).
 
Part 4:
This is video where the wheel was disassembled to show the wheel was not tampered with to cheat.
http://www.genuinewinner.com/antitamper.wmv
 
 
If you don't have the time to review ALL of the above, below are the most important parts (shorter versions):
 
 
SEGMENT 1: Shorter version of roulette computer demo (7.7MB):
 
http://www.genuinewinner.com/13nov10shorter.wma
 
This is just the end part of the roulette computer demo where the device is fully calibrated and achieving maximum accuracy. The accuracy achieved is over a 90% hit rate when covering 15 numbers, which is needless to say an enormous edge. No other device is capable of achieving such accuracy, especially on such a difficult wheel to beat - and we used only basic settings (basic for this computer). This audio has had many parts chopped out to make it shorter, but it's more suitable if you have limited time. If you have serious intentions with this technology though, you should listen to the full audio or even better, visit me for a personal demonstration to see it for yourself.
 
 
SEGMENT 2: Basic Visual Ballistics Technique to beat roulette without electronics (6MB):
 
http://www.genuinewinner.com/vb13nov10.wma
 
This is a part of the genuinewinner.com roulette system. The technique taught to techniques is my way of saying thanks to people who attend my public events. It is only a very basic method in this recording, as the advanced methods are reserved strictly for my players - including methods that deal with varying rotor speeds, and the wheel being only partially visible (rather than top view). In addition to the documentation at www.genuinewinner.com/gw.zip this audio file will give you a better idea of the kind of methods I teach.
 
 
Additionally, I recently uploaded numerous new demonstration videos which are now available at www.roulettecomputers.com/videos.html
 
If you have any questions, simply reply to this email or contact me via www.genuinewinner.com/contact.html
 
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Re: Public Roulette Computer Demo RESULTS (13th Nov)
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2010, 09:38:41 AM »
isnt this the player area?

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Re: Public Roulette Computer Demo RESULTS (13th Nov)
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2010, 03:51:08 PM »
weebly this is the public area so any non players can read it.

Steve you probably wont get this in time but can we expect the dvd to be ready before the 25th?

Is the video a top view of the wheel and suitable for testing?

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Re: Public Roulette Computer Demo RESULTS (13th Nov)
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2011, 05:40:22 PM »
The below was just broadcasted:

See the VIDEO RECORDING of the last public demonstration of my roulette computers: http://www.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/publicdemo.wmv - this video shows parts of a 4 hour public demonstration of my electronic devices that predict roulette spins. The public demos are to establish clear irrefutable proof that my devices beat modern roulette wheels in realistic conditions.

The result of the public demo was over 93% accuracy when betting 15 numbers. With a starting bankroll of $500, the end bankroll was $7,475.

This is an enormous edge over the casino. I always tell my players that with my devices, it's not a matter of what you can win - it's more about what you can get away with. And what you earn is not impacted by the global financial crisis.

The public demo was conducted on the top model roulette wheel from John Huxley as seen at http://www.tcsjohnhuxley.com/en/live-gaming/roulette-wheels/saturn-roulette-wheel.html - a bouncy ivorine ball was used, and the 3 dominant metal deflectors (diamonds) were evenly spaced which makes winning even more difficult. Overall, the wheel was about 8.5/10 difficulty. We even disassembled the wheel at the end of the demo to prove the wheel had not been tampered with in any way (see http://www.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/antitamper.wmv)

There is simply no easier way to make money legally. But be aware of  scam devices that are poorly designed, and can only be applied on easily-beaten wheels you will never find. Our devices are legal in most parts of the world, although they are still applied discretely because legal or not, casinos can still ban players to protect their revenue.

The recording of a public demo is all the proof you should need. Although the best proof you can get is visiting me personally in either a public (group) demo, or a private 1-on-1 demo. See www.genuinewinner.com/conference.htm to attend a demo. Soon I will also be doing a LIVE WEBCAM demo.

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