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benny

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just saying hi
« on: April 11, 2011, 03:23:53 PM »
Hi everyone I'm new here. I read everything there is about steves system, including the trash talk which turned out to a wild goose chase under a mountain of junk from idiots. I will become a player soon. Just wanted to say hi

benny

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Re: just saying hi
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2011, 03:29:36 PM »
I'll just give some of my background. Im in italy on work exchange from usa. I'm pretty familair with visual ballistics so I know the techniques work. I havent had time to work with them too much but it will change soon. I think steve is one of the real experts and hope he can teach me the finer points which is why I'm joining. Chat you all real soon

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Re: just saying hi
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2011, 07:00:44 PM »
nice to meet you. You select the right roulette expert. Steve is a nice gentlemen. Though he is busy all the time, you will get all the support.
So please be patient if sometimes he seems diappears. I am happy with all his support in past.
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benny

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Re: just saying hi
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2011, 02:49:52 AM »
thankyou. im really looking forward to this and will dedicate proper time to get to where I aim. I know not everyone does well but I do consider myself someone who learns and understands things well.

I have been reading up on steve and all this stuff for so long, and its quite exciting to finally move forward. I will be in the player parts of the forum real soon!

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Re: just saying hi
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2011, 11:44:58 AM »
Hey benny. My advice is listen to steve he really is very patient and knows what hes talking about. Overall I am pretty happy I have done well. The turning point for me was knowing what wheels are good and bad, then ignoring the bad ones. You dont play on just any wheel.

Like cwing says steve is always busy but I have always found his support to be very thorough.

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Re: just saying hi
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2011, 12:31:19 PM »
I know many players seldom get support from Steve and not willing to tell Steve about their progress.
And they have no patience.
Sometimes, they think they have understood something, but it's not the case. You have to discuss with Steve about your understandings.
We may understand the wrong concept. I know there are players that paid steve for many thousands dollars, and rarely get support.
Even for some computer players, they cannot make any success with it. The device and the system are always work.
But the success players get support from Steve. Lack of communication can lead to huge mistakes. I believed you are one of those successful players.
路姆西

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Re: just saying hi
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2011, 01:20:29 PM »
I was making some stupid mistakes at the start. When I look back I really dint know what I was doing. Yup maybe I didnt have the patience either. Maybe more lazy and didnt think I would get what I need anyway. Its all good now but I am still learning. As long as I have the data, steve still give me a good idea of what went wrong on the bad days so I limit them. I still have my bad days but its getting better. There is around 7 of 10 days are positive

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Re: just saying hi
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2011, 01:54:59 PM »
Nothing irritates me more than players that pay me thousands, dont ever get proper support, then wonder why they are losing. Many players are unsuccessful and it never has anything to do with the computer, the system or me. The system and computer are just tools. They work, but are not magic. They need to be understood - including what they can and cant do. What I do is help players understand and apply what they've paid me for.

I've dealt with many "strange" people. Typically 1 in 100 is "off the handle". The worst ever being a french adolecent who kept thinking he knew best, but kept making ridiculous misunderstandings. One example is he ignored my advice to NOT test the roulette computer on a dvd player used in a pc, as they are notorious for skipping - imperceivable amounts, but relevant to the computer. He ignored me then wondered why he got the results he did. So many more examples but its a waste of time. When I read his rants these days, he hasnt changed - still very poor knowledge and only recites what others say, without proper understanding. That is his personal problem, and he himself confessed he's aware of his problems. Ultimately what frustrates me is plain how stupid such people can be, yet they are so convinced they know better. ignorance and stupidity is by far my pet hate. But he's a severe case. The average player isnt like that - most are "normal" people that i enjoy helping. But still most players dont get the support they need.

To a professional player, some of the things inexperienced players have tried doing is plain "silly" to put it midly. I could give many examples, but later the player, if they persist, realizes how "silly" they were being and wonder what they were thinking.

I sincerely care about everyone's results. That is why I created the thread http://www.genuinewinner.com/forum/index.php/topic,155.0.html - it is why I spend thousands to create free tools and software for players. Most of my time for roulette is support - on some days I type so much that my fingers are quite sore. If you get to know me well enough, you will learn I am a sincere person that really cares about how you do with what he provided you with - essentially the result of a lot of my hard work, so of course I want to see you succeed.

Players need to understand there is a lot to beating roulette. None of it is complex. There are just a lot of things to learn. Absolutely the m main difference between someone who can earn tens of thousands per month and a player who cant achieve anything is knowledge. But that comes from support, and players need to seek it. I know what the system and computers can do. I know what it has taken to get them to where they are. Most players have no idea at the start.

Like I tell everyone at the start, I really do care about your success. I will do everything within reason to help you. But players need to listen to me and get support. What you learn from the primordials document is only a fragment of everything. If you communicate with me and provide the data I need, expect success. If you take shortcuts and neglect support, expect to fail.

So many times I never hear from players. They pay me, we communicate via emal a few times, then I dont hear from them for a long time. Then I may hear from another player or someone else that the original player is unsuccessful, and upset with me because they think they cant win, which is very often partly influenced by rubbish written by clowns like bago, forester and howe. This is stupid because the player needs to understand such morons themselves will tell you what I teach is legitimate... IF you dont mention my name in the same sentence. Instead of understanding the player hasnt gotten the required support, they find it simpler and easier to blame me. The old saying is "a bad tradesman blames his tools". What keeps me sane is the players that do get support, correctly apply what I teach, end up doing well and being very thankful for it.

In the end I cant force players to seek the support. Winning is sometimes very easy, but more often than not, you will need to work for it. Like my site says, it is not effortless money from the sky. And when players become knowledgable and competent, they understand it really is all quite simple. Yes a lot to learn especially for a new roulette player, but not difficult.

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Re: just saying hi
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2011, 04:28:22 PM »
benny did you buy a book about visual ballistics or something? where did you learn it?

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Re: just saying hi
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2011, 12:22:07 AM »
Benny  I have so many systems software and books I bought and what I learned from steve tops them all. His approaches are original and have never seen them before knowing him.

The other best have been laurence scott and pierre but they have nothing new. laurence gives some software also but steves software is much more comprehensive and useful.

There are a few other packages around but it is old material. You really have landed in the best place

jb

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Re: just saying hi
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2011, 05:57:03 PM »
Speaking of pierre I got his new book the other day. It is just like the old one, with a few new bits. He makes a few big mistakes and critical misunderstandings in it, but by no more than many others. I'll explain more about this in the player sections when I have time.

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Re: just saying hi
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2011, 11:50:11 AM »
Bottom line is that this stuff requires a tremendous amount of PATIENCE!!! I've had the system almost a year now and am still just barely ahead when I play and many times get up and loose long term. I've taken time away for a month before to just breath after spending long hours on spins without getting good results, but I know it's part of the struggle and not made to be a cake walk. Casinos are in business for a reason.

I'm still a lot better off than anyone else that plays at the casino in terms of knowledge and application but this stuff isn't easy and you gotta work at it. Frustration is a huge part of it all and I guess I look at it as a life long project that keeps me occupied and keeps my mind working and strategizing/analyzing the wheel.

I think the fun also comes in the struggle because when you find success it's a lot more worthwhile.

thats my 2 cents.


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Re: just saying hi
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2011, 05:40:09 PM »
jesse it is a lot of long frustrating hours, thats for sure. It took me a long time to understand but now I do better than I really thought I would. You just cant play on every wheel and need to be selective.