Author Topic: Forester's new FFA R7 roulette computer  (Read 12244 times)

Steve

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Forester's new FFA R7 roulette computer
« on: February 24, 2011, 03:11:07 PM »
The following is aimed at players who have both my computer and forester's computers, so not everyone will understand it.

Recently I said he needs to fix his point set feature, and I assume his latest version is his attempt. Also long ago I said one day he'll need to completely re-write his programs because too much is wrong with them, and recently that's exactly what forester said he had to do. But still it has the same problems and he'll need to rewrite again. Anyway I've had a look at his latest computer (Viper FFA R7). Unfortunately it really is no better. Roughly half a decade ago, my most basic computers were at the stage that his latest computer is at now.

Essentially his latest version is a revised way to use point set, and point set is a feature that attempts to:

1. have the computer only give predictions only when a specific diamond is predicted to be hit

2. make time adjustments for the location of point set (marking edges of full revolutions)

I really dont want to help forester and explain what needs to be done, so I wont. But I will better explain the difference between a simplistic computer that doesn't do the job right, and a correctly designed computer that does everything correctly and automatically.

Anyway I've prepared the below video:
http://www.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/ffar7.wmv

His latest computer's equivalent is to observe which diamond the ball hits, listen to the ball speed announced by the FFA, write it down for the casino surveillance to see, then run to the bathroom and make sense of the data, then manually set the computer. Then come back to the table, eventually realize your settings are wrong, then repeat the process. It's really a big mess. And according to him, I'm the uneducated and 'stoopid' one running a scam.

With my computer, you simply enter which diamond the ball hits, and my computer does the rest. The "green area" in the video can be shifted automatically, or manually. I can save the ball times to the same or different charts. Anyone that has my computer would know the huge range of options and capabilities of my devices. Anyone that has both foresters and my computers would understand why I call foresters computers "simplistic rubbish". I'm having another public computer demo soonish, and invite any of forester's players to attend and learn.

Certainly I could show so much more. I wont even get started with the hybrid. I'm only talking about comparing my most basic computers with his very best computer. I wanted to highlight this single point, although a far more extensive list of differences is at http://www.roulettecomputers.com/comparison.htm - I will also add that the approach above is not suitable for a lot of wheels, and something entirely different is required. My latest version has done this different thing for years, but it is used only by experienced players as it requires skilled operation. But my developers are almost done on making it almost completely automated, so it can be used by even the most inexperienced players. This version will be available in roughly 2 weeks. But players should not send back their computers for updating until it's fully complete.

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Re: Forester's new FFA R7 roulette computer
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2011, 06:07:35 PM »
If I didn't know better I'd say you're showing off but I do know better. You are really biting your tongue :) I don't care about foresters forum or ff anymore I know where to go for the best. There is nothing that ff has over your compeuter. Now I will bite my tongue

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Re: Forester's new FFA R7 roulette computer
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2011, 06:14:11 PM »
By way I prefer this forum look :)

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Re: Forester's new FFA R7 roulette computer
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 04:30:18 PM »
haha! steve I have to laugh at manualons response on vls and the flurry of activity on foresters forum since you posted this. what a bunch of cretins!

Even bago had to comment what a tool. You put up with so many idiots I would break my foot on their ass if I was in your shoes. screw em mate just do your thing.

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Re: Forester's new FFA R7 roulette computer
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2011, 07:34:47 PM »
Manuelon is just lost, and yes certainly literally "stupid". There are many like him that really have no idea.

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Re: Forester's new FFA R7 roulette computer
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 12:23:18 AM »
Yeah. The guy start with M has no logic about what he is saying. Even he claims he did have more understanding than Steve and Forester.
But it does not mean he knows roulette on the correct level.
I am sorry about the time he wasted, just bindly take what Forester, Bago and Mark Howe words.
For Bago, though his websites look logic to some people. But Smart people will know what he is talking and how he understands things.
Here an example on how his brain is run:

1. He claims a succeed supplier of roulette computer would not stay in a house with cheap furniture.

> First, Bago even don't know what Steve's house looks like, he just based on the photo and makes his conclusion.
> Staying in a cheap house does not mean the one who stays inside are poor or not. There are numberous rich people keep their
    profile as low as possible. They simply don't like to show off.

There are many examples showing his clever brain. But people should do their research, compare the products then make decision.

2. He claims Steve system relies on scatter chart so it's dealer signature. So it's a scam.

>First, ask yourself, do you know dealer signature? DS is one kind of AP that beats roulette.
>Ask yourself, why using scatter charts means the system are applying dealer signature? Is that a must?
>Scatter charts can be used in many ways, it is just a tool or a way to assist analysis.

I cannot understand why people nowadays like to believe bullshit without using their brain to make some judgement.
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Re: Forester's new FFA R7 roulette computer
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 07:40:27 AM »
Some of the people at foresters forum are also here and they see it from both sides.

Regarding the two points you raised, there is a photo of inside the house, and all you see is my pregnant wife, a sony bravia lcd that years ago when I bought it was $6000, and $2000 treadmill. Who cares about this crap. But from this they somehow concluded that I'm "poor". They are desperate so turn anything to however they want. More as a joke I showed a photo of another tv I own because they're pathetic. And to make fun of Howe I did the $50k cash count, then he accuses me of using monopoly money, and says he contacted the tax office to complaint blah blah. Obsessed people. Some of the lies and distortions are incredible. Sick. Howe is the worst though but there is no sense in trying to understand sick people.

Regarding scatter charts, bago one day publishedf a scatter chart saying there was nbo advantage on it. It turned out to be +300 units. He does not understand AP, and even admitted to me himself that he has personality problems. Bago is just a troubled kid and he will never admit making mistakes. The war he has against me is more frustration with himself. For howe its the same. For forester, it's more about ego. Either way it is a vendetta for me merely exposing their nonsense, so they have no regard for truth. But truth is not on their side, which is why they get desperate and personal. Thats the sum of it.

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Re: Forester's new FFA R7 roulette computer
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 09:14:15 AM »
When I first got into this talk I didnt know what to think because a lot of it made sense from both sides but I didnt understand a lot of the finer details. Now having personal experience and better knowledge , steven I know you have been honest and lies about you really are atrocious. Some of the people just follow foresters lead because they are comfortable in believing what they think they know and dont want it challenged. There is a name for it

Your wars site spelled it out well. I am sure it would be annoying with the idiots but it just goes in circles. but I think you need to realise your players know better and let idiots be idiots.

jb

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Re: Forester's new FFA R7 roulette computer
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2011, 11:00:43 AM »
I just got up to speed whats happening. They are idiots alright Dont bother :D

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Re: Forester's new FFA R7 roulette computer
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2011, 09:38:41 AM »
yes i know. I think he's having a bit of a tantrum now. Getting personal even insulting my wife by calling her 300 pounds, based on a photo of her pregnant. Just pathetic people, the kind where you just scratch your head. I could say so much more but I really do keep wasting time

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Re: Forester's new FFA R7 roulette computer
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2011, 09:53:27 AM »
You really shouldnt bother. Every time I see his forum you are mentioned in a new thread. I think forester is an extremely jealous person. The people at his forum are idiots in every sense of the word.

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Re: Forester's new FFA R7 roulette computer
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2011, 09:54:48 AM »
Sorry for post this here just to let you know I cant access the other boards.