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Main Roulette Board / Re: Pierre Basieux's Misunderstandings
« Last post by Steve on November 11, 2011, 02:35:22 PM »
The below image shows the "jump" chart from the public demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUqjvSvEnX8



There is no denying the difficulty of the wheel. Early predictions, mk7 velstone, 3 evenly spread dominant diamonds, deliberately bouncy ivorine ball etc. This is using only the basic settings. The chart shows about 60 spins. The highest peak is 6 values high and central to main peak (there are 3 peaks). So this means with the basic settings alone, the direct number hit rate is 1 in 10.

What I could have done is have the computer only give predictions when the ball is likely to form part of the larger peak. This would greatly reduce the size of the other peaks bringing the direct number hit rate closer to 1 in 6 or so.

Remember this is deliberately difficult conditions, and using only basic settings. 1 in 5 not possible my backside.

Anyway again I shouldnt waste more time on this. I should be used to other people having trouble believing what is everyday stuff for me.
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Main Roulette Board / Pierre Basieux's Misunderstandings
« Last post by Steve on November 11, 2011, 01:52:07 PM »
A while back I got Pierre Basieux's latest book. It's in German so I had to scan it, convert the text to images with OCR, then translate it all. There is nothing new I personally learned from it, and in fact I found some critical mistakes in his understandings.

Anyway he mentions me a lot in his book, and he really says some uneducated things. I can understand he hasn't done proper research but what I dont understand is how someone with such limited information automatically thinks he's an expert about me and what I do.

Nevertheless, I'll address his "criticisms" about me, from what little he knows. I have said my hybrid roulette computer can achieve up to 1 in 5 direct number hits. Generally this means if you got a single number prediction, you can expect to win 1 in 5 spins. There is more to this as we never actually bet on 1 number as I explain later. Anyway he claims that 1 in 5 is impossible basically because the ball never bounces predictably enough.

So here's a lesson about how ignorance works:

1. I said UP-TO 1 in 5 hit rate. This means just that - the best possible. It is not an expression of what to expect on every wheel. It is an expression of what to expect in IDEAL conditions, which is heavily tilted wheel, and minimal ball bounce. As per https://www.roulette-computers.com/comparison.htm for the hybrid, the average exact number hit rate for the average modern wheel is 1 in 14. But it really varies so it is very difficult to give an average value.

Considerations:

i. When used to predict the same spin on a TV screen, the same number is predicted almost every time. This means the timing errors are negligible.

ii. Pierre appears to think ball scatter is whatever happens once the ball leaves the ball track. This is incomplete. From a VB player's perspective and with basic/quick scatter analysis, sure you can take that approach because you don't have a roulette computer to calculate with more precise variables when it comes to play anyway. In reality, scatter is different when the ball hits specific diamonds and hits them in different ways. If you assessed a wheel's "ball scatter" and considered all spins together, then scatter may be 1 in 30, and you may think the wheel is near impossible to beat.

But hey, consider the scatter for when the ball hits a particular diamond, and you may find the scatter is more like 1 in 8. And with a well designed computer that takes extremely precise timings automatically, you can determine with high accuracy which diamond the ball is most likely to hit. Both my Uber and Hybrid https://www.hybridroulettecomputer.com] computers do this. This means it can reject spins where it determines the ball will bounce wildly, and announce predictions when it determines the ball will bounce much more predictably.

The above is one thing., but if you also consider rotor speed in your scatter assessment, you can increase accuracy by up to (UP TO) 5 times. This is not only what I've found - also George Melas who is one of the designers for John Huxley wheels shared his knowledge about this with me. He calls it the coefficient of restitution. But that value actually changes depending on where the ball loses its momentum, so its not that simple. To date, my roulette computers are the only ones capable of compensating for the different ball bounce on different rotor speeds AND different ball falling for different parts of the wheel, not to mention adjustments for ball deceleration rate changes.

Consider all this ... and suddenly, claims of "up to 1 in 5" are not unreasonable at all. I assume Pierre doesn't believe my claims of up to 1 in 5 because:

1. He doesn't understand what "up to" means (best case scenario, in ideal conditions).

2. He assumes scatter is whatever happens after the ball track, without giving consideration to specific diamond hits, and varying bounce on different rotor speeds

3. He assumes every spin results in a prediction, without any risk assessment (ie setting the computer to only give predictions on the most predictable spins)

On another note, he also made some comments indicating he once saw some documentation about my primordial methods. He would know them as correlation charts. My players would know them as primordial (very basic) charts. And he assumed the primordial charting document was my system in its entirety, when it is simply an introduction to what I teach. Pierre is not "unintelligent", but unfortunately ignorance and lack of education about matters overrules intelligence.

I very often waste time educating people that think they know best, and think my claims are outrageous because they don't understand it. It is not uncommon for other "professionals" to attack me. I'm not so sure they've developed anything close to the hybrid roulette computer, or have achieved anything close to my teams. Perhaps I should expect a little "flak", whether from envy, inability to understand, or perhaps both. So I'll try not to waste more time, except for this last note:

If you had a 1 in 5 direct hit rate on a wheel, say you played on 100 spins with $1 bet per spin. That would be $620 PROFIT

Now let's say you won 93% of the time when covering 15 numbers per spin with $1 per number. Over 100 spins, this is $1848 PROFIT. This is the accuracy achieved in the public demo at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUqjvSvEnX8

So you win much more by covering more numbers. For this reason, we never bet just 1 number in real play. Also even if you had a 1 in 5 average hit rate, over 100 spins which is short term, you may have just missed out on a win a few times, making you lose. This will almost never happen if you are covering more numbers.
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Main Roulette Board / Re: Einstein
« Last post by Steve on November 07, 2011, 01:31:30 PM »
He specifically said TABLE. The WHEEL is a very different thing. He is basically saying if you only consider the table, you can't win.
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Main Roulette Board / Re: Contacted by a casino
« Last post by ique on November 07, 2011, 12:45:50 PM »
Thanks.  From your response, I assume you don't plan on ever disclosing anything of value for as long as you're still around then?
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Main Roulette Board / Einstein
« Last post by orey66 on November 07, 2011, 10:08:05 AM »
“You can’t beat a Roulette table, unless you steal money from it” – Albert Einstein


Does anyone actually know what Einstein actually meant when he said that?

I have heard a lot of people saying its metaphorical and doesn’t actually mean stealing chips from the table.

While others say its impossible to steal unless cameras or croupier are not watching. So many different interpretations of what Einstein said, I just wish I knew what he meant by that as we all know roulette is very much beatable.

After all a man created roulette and a man can defeat it again.

My interpretation of it is the only way you can beat it is to study the wheel rigorously and then “exploit” it. The word “exploit” might have been the word to replace “steal” which is what I think Einstein wanted to express.

Just my opinion, but who knows best other than Einstein himself!!
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Main Roulette Board / Re: Contacted by a casino
« Last post by Steve on November 07, 2011, 08:46:54 AM »
The version I agreed to supply is very simplistic, and uses algorithms they already know about. Them leaking is not a concern. The more sophisticated versions do much more. I am concerned about leaks of the more sophisticated algorithms because it alerts them to parameters and conditions that are beatable - more beatable than they think.

With the non-electronic system, I'm not so concerned about leaks because the algorithms are on a server (www.roulettewheelanalysis.com) and reverse engineering them would be just about impossible.

I cannot guarantee the more sophisticated roulette computers wont fall into the wrong hands, although the devices use various measures of protection. So even if they get certain versions, they are unlikely to figure some things out. This is not 100% assured though - nothing is. There's nothing stopping them from pretending to be a legitimate player from start to finish.
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Main Roulette Board / Re: Contacted by a casino
« Last post by ique on November 05, 2011, 11:07:58 AM »
Today staff from a European casino contacted me saying that computer players took almost $30,000 from one of their automated roulette machines, and they wanted to know if I would consult them as to how to detect such players. From what she said and the location, it was likely one of my teams. I found it quite amusing and responded:

I'm sorry but I'm one of the people that beat roulette for a living. I do not have an interest to help you catch people like my teams.

Also a few weeks ago I spoke to the main casino consultant in South America - he was asking me to sell him with a computer. I agreed but only to a very basic version, which is roughly the equivalent of forester's computer because I want to avoid showing full capabilities of the computers for as long as possible - it wont be possible forever though. Anyway he explained he used to be a player, but found there was more money in helping the casinos. I will never "sell out" like that - it's about much more than money. I did for a brief period offer to consult for casinos to assist them in uncovering bias that is usually missed, but that's because almost none of the players RELY on bias. There are just better ways to beat roulette.

Were you implying on the highlighted that you will keep proprietary info intact for as long as you can help it as long as it is in your control - while knowing full well that leaked intelligence and complete disclosure are inevitable, which is out of your control - or do you mean you will eventually disclose all your proprietary info when present endeavors don't prove lucrative anymore?

Thank you for your time, Sir.
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General Discussion / Re: Player Board Access
« Last post by Steve on October 31, 2011, 01:40:32 PM »
It appears your email service provider is confusing my mail with spam. It is likely the mention of gambling and/or roulette in the text.

1. Tell your service provider their algorithms are stupid
2. Set up a free gmail account
3. Email me your new email address from your old one (Your mail reaches me fine)
4. I'll email you on your new address, and we'll take it from there
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General Discussion / Re: Player Board Access
« Last post by Parttuls on October 29, 2011, 04:57:03 AM »
I replied to the email verification I received and still can not get into any portion of the Members Only forum.  I have waited a couple days before posting this as I figured it might take a little time to fix whatever was/is wrong.  You have my correct email so we can continue this outside of the forum.
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General Discussion / Re: Player Board Access
« Last post by Steve on October 26, 2011, 04:22:34 PM »
I sent it again. Check your spam folders as it may be there
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