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Main Roulette Board / Re: betting on 15 numbers?
« Last post by silanarchy on December 11, 2011, 09:33:47 AM »
The 15 numbers is the ideal amount of numbers but obviously very difficult without 2 players, its far easier to cover 5-10 instead which is more realistic but sometimes you have to cover a whole area "peak" to profit.Don't expect to get the hang of covering lots of numbers straight away it takes practice, i suggest you watch the public demo video on the homepage for more info on how they work etc to basic level, you will not learn the advanced features unless you become a player we are not aloud to discuss this with non players due to our agreements plus its not in our interest anyway.
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Main Roulette Board / betting on 15 numbers?
« Last post by knuttybuddy on December 11, 2011, 03:17:29 AM »
When Steve says he received a 93% accuracy on 15 numbers.  Is that betting in the same 15 numbers every time or changing them.  I just don't see how there would be enough time to always change 15 numbers.
 Thanks for helping.
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Main Roulette Board / who here has profited from roulette computers?
« Last post by knuttybuddy on December 11, 2011, 01:51:21 AM »
Hello everyone I'm new to this whole thing and I'm just curious on how many people have had success with any of the roulette computers Steve makes.  Thanks so much
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Main Roulette Board / How early can roulette computers predict?
« Last post by Steve on November 28, 2011, 02:02:14 PM »
I've been asked some questions about misleading information published by someone. It is regarding roulette computers that dont talk vs computers that speak predictions.

My "basic" roulette computer gives vibrations instead of speaking, or beeps via wireless earpiece. This is the computer that genuinewinner.com players get for free. It can be adapted to give electric zaps although nobody has requested that. The user can clock the ball from any point on the wheel (but with reduced accuracy), and you dont need to clock the rotor. So you can get predictions just a second from ball release.

While it is made to sounds great by people selling such devices, I'll explain the reality of it:

Basic VB works on the principle of determining how many ball revolutions remain in the spin, and rotor orientation when the first reference number is taken. More directly, you take a reference number when the ball is at a certain speed, and compare that number to the winning number. Do that for enough spins, develop a chart, and apply the offset (distance from reference number to where the ball is landing most). Well thats just basic VB. Some of the problems with this are:

1. You dont measure rotor speed, so a slight variation in rotor speed can make a big difference to the rotor's orientation when the ball falls. Can you perceive a 200ms difference in rotor speed? No. And such a slight difference is all that is needed to screw your accuracy, especially if you are establishing timings from anywhere around the wheel.

2. You dont know the rotor speed, so calculating how far the ball will bounce with the different rotor speed is impossible. You can estimate it, but good luck.

Now imagine a roulette computer the allowed you to take timings from anywhere on the rotor, and didnt take any rotor timings. Could this possibly be "the most accurate computer"? No chance. This is what my free basic computer without audio does. For it to achieve accuracy, you need a rotor with consistently the same speed. If the rotor speed is different, you can use a feature to measure the rotor speed difference, but it takes a lot of skill and practise. It really is no comparison to my other computers (see http://www.roulettecomputers.com/comparison.htm to compare computers).

If you find someone claiming to have a computer that doesn't need rotor timings to make a prediction, and that it can prediction with ball clicks anywhere on the wheel, and that this computer achieves brilliant accuracy, it is hogwash. If you want to get a prediction about 1-2 seconds after ball release, such a computer is not the proper way to do it. I'll explain the proper way to do it:

Hybrid computer (http://www.hybridroulettecomputer.com]www.hybridroulettecomputer.com): times revolutions of the ball and rotor INDEPENDENTLY at the same time. The green zero need only move a little bit, and the seed and position of the rotor is known. Because video framerate limits detection accuracy, it determines ball position and angle to correct. Predictions can be almost instantaeous from the moment of ball release - basically the time it takes to complete one revolution, and catch a glimpse of the green zero. And if that wasn't early enough, it can be adapted to recognize any number on the wheel.

Use two wireless devices where one clocks the rotor, and the other the ball at the same time (http://www.roulettecomputers.com uber version): This was demonstrated at the last public demo with recording at http://www.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/publicdemo.wmv and it can do more. Say if you have a very slow rotor and need to clock 1/4 rotor. Even with a slow rotor, clocking errors with 1/4 rotor revolution will still have significant errors... unless you have two people clocking it at the same time. Then errors can be almost eliminated, and you get predictions by the time the rotor travels 1/4 revolution, whether zero is visible or not because you can clock both sides of the rotor.

So this illustrates the difference between a simplistic device with the seller hyping it up, and computers that do the job properly. The facts are simple and clear to anyone with a logical mind, which is why sellers of other devices compete by attacking me personally. On another note, be sure to see http://www.roulettecomputers.com/ddt.htm]www.roulettecomputers.com/ddt.htm if you've been misled with claims that mobile phones cant achieve accuracy with timings. Everyone from mike barnett to laurence scott uses mobile phone roulette computers, but they need modification first. Unfortunately some sellers put profits before truth, although its not uncommon as they're trying to profit.

PS - Players who want to know how to evaluate the deviation in ball revolutions from ball track deformations, and how early predictions can be to achieve accuracy, simply read http://www.genuinewinner.com/forum/index.php/topic,240.0.html
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General Discussion / Re: Electric Car Supression
« Last post by orey66 on November 28, 2011, 12:15:43 PM »
I want to buy the Honda FCX Clarity which uses hydrogen to run the car…..but don’t think there is hydrogen refuelling stations in my city…Actually I don’t even know if they have any..

No matter what I want to reduce harmful substances and hopefully get a car which is fuel free that only produces water vapour…These cars are pretty damn expensive too and these big oil corporations will do anything they can to either destroy these vehicles or to make it as inconvenient for consumers to buy…

At the moment California has many hydrogen refuelling stations which is why Honda find it much more profitable to sell it there than anywhere else…
The only way we can stop these corporations from destroying these environmentally safe cars is if we all stand up and take action…..After all this is our planet and we must protect it.

After watching soo many documantaries about how we pollute the earth and how much we take our natural resources for granted by wasting and not recycling…it made me think, if we carry on like thisss…what are we going to expect to see in 20 years time ?

Perhaps the biggest and most detrimental damage to the earth the people of this earth will ever see.
We can expect to see the end of the world, where big companies have abused the planets natural resources for monetary purposes and soaring hard working people of this earth who were slaved in to the system, saying to themselves….Why didn’t I do something about it before it was too late…All I used to think of is my 9-5 job…paying my mortgage and car payments and I never thought of how I could save our planet!!

The Change Is Now…..
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General Discussion / Electric Car Supression
« Last post by Steve on November 28, 2011, 08:37:40 AM »
Download the document from www.genuinewinner.com/electriccar.pdf

If you've ever asked where is the electric car, this will open your eyes. They get away with this because we let them, i.e. there is not enough pressure to stop it. Circulating this document will help other see what has happened. Imagine what else is being suppressed, while the world's population is struggling.

You might ask what you can possibly do. Spread the document for starters. It may be the only way things will change is when enough of us put pressure on politicians. When there is enough pressure, competing politicians will need only make demanded policies a reality to be in elected power.
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General Discussion / Re: Thrive Documentary: Everyone should watch!
« Last post by Steve on November 28, 2011, 08:11:56 AM »
For sure there will be massive civil unrest. It is already happening. The debt will just get worse. For me more the question is when in the US will they stage an event, perhaps some infectious disease, to declare martial law. FEMA exists for it.
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General Discussion / Re: Thrive Documentary: Everyone should watch!
« Last post by orey66 on November 27, 2011, 07:41:30 AM »
What Hitler did in Germany was beyond measure to what humans are capable of. This impacts the world at large and creates history between nations who are unable to forget what this man has done.

All that can be said in terms of saving this planet is to act now rather than in a few decades from now, when in 2030, it's predicted that population will rise to 8 billion people. Energy production alone will need to increase by 44 per cent to meet the demand of the population.

"Since money is the only initiator of action, are we to expect all the countries in the planet are to afford massive changes needed to revolutionize agriculture, water processing, energy production and the like, when the global debt pyramid scheme is slowly shutting the world down. From 1970 to 2010, poverty on this planet doubled due to this monetary system. Given our current state, would you see anything less than more doubling of  human suffering and mass starvation. And when there is economic collapse, the next phase we are going to see is a massive civil unrest. People will lose confidence in their elected leaders and will demand change. The scary part of all of this, is what happens if we are too late to change. If we don’t act now, then their might be a point of no return. We need to do all we can to avoid that condition".


We are so deep in to the system that we are just carrying on with our lives, like if everything is normal. If this carries on, one day will we will pay the consequences of our actions.
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General Discussion / Re: Thrive Documentary: Everyone should watch!
« Last post by JL on November 23, 2011, 01:48:06 PM »
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I prefer his stuff on 9/11, WW3, world government, vaccines, etc.

Yes no problem with that stuff.

Another person who is perceived as too wacky is Alex Jones. He comes across as fanatical and it turns a lot of people the wrong way. To many of the people he needs to reach, he does more damage than good, whether or not his information is accurate.


I just thought 'he's American', haha. Yeah, agreed again.
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General Discussion / Re: Thrive Documentary: Everyone should watch!
« Last post by Steve on November 23, 2011, 08:29:05 AM »
We are a long way from not having laws and enforcement. But much of the current laws are based more around profit.

Also there is not a problem with the idea of money. Money is just for trade. The problems are:

1. A monopoly on instruments of trade (money). Currency should be free and anything of value. You can trade any object you want, but you are taxed on that too.

2. Excessive tax, most of which is used not to fund community projects, but to pay the interest to bankers for government loans, or billions on defence to bomb some poor afgan guy and his goat, to push oil or political agendas.

Try to make your own currency, or evade tax when you have signed liability to pay tax (this is another story), and expect to go to jail for periods as if you were a rapist.

In all, there are so many problems you may not know where to begin. Two of the biggest are developing free energy technology (there is better than geothermal), and changing how the monetary system works in particularly with debt and money creation. The banks are legal criminals.

One of my favorive sayings from martin luther king jr is "lets not forget that everything hitler did in germany was legal"
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