Roulette Physics Forum
Public Board => Public Board => Main Roulette Board => Topic started by: pascal on June 24, 2011, 12:13:29 PM
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When I first became interested in roulette all I knew was "the payouts" and the 35/1 for a single number looked very good to me. The first time I heard the words "house edge" I asked, what is the house edge? And was told that zero was the house edge. After giving it some thought I reasoned that if I betted zero then I was taking the house edge away from the casino.
Alright, alright, so I was stupid yeah. My diminishing bankroll told me that.!
I started asking myself questions. I wanted to understand. Everything I read told me that the numbers were randomly distributed around the wheel so I had a look at the wheel and decided that number distribution was not TOTALLY random.
I then asked myself why the numbers on the layout read 1 2 3 verticaly as opposed to 1 2 3 horizontaly. I answered the question to my own satisfaction.
Reading through the posts on this forum I read that "The table is a scattered representation of the wheel, and it is scattered and "randomised" for good reason." In the post HOW YOU CAN AND CAN'T BEAT ROULETTE.
I've only been a member of this forum for a few days and the one thing I know to be true is that Steve knows what he is talking about. He makes sense.
However, I think the table is NOT a scattered representation of the wheel and that the wheel IS a scattered represenation of the table. I hasten to add that I feel like an audatious schoolboy who has just questioned something that teacher said.
To me the table is perfectly organised and the wheel is a scattered representation of the table. If I am prooved to be wrong, so be it. I will accept that. However, please don't ask me to say why I believe what I have written as I will not answer that question on an open forum.
pascal.
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I think the table is NOT a scattered representation of the wheel and that the wheel IS a scattered represenation of the table
Why do you think there is a difference?
Also if we didnt question teachers, then inaccurate teachings would never change.
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My perception of both wheel and table.
Or are you saying that there is no difference between the two statements?
pascal
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Saying one is a scattered representation of the other is much the same thing.
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I agree with Steve. It is saying the same thing, just your personal perception/belief. Like t"he glass is half full, or half empty"
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Thank you for your replies. My perception of both wheel and table plays a large part in my aproach to how and where I place my money. And my cup runneth over. :) ;)
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I prefer "the glass it st 50% capacity"
Pascal, how do you currently play roulette?
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I always play real live wheel.
"How do I play?" My method of play is maths based. My perception of both wheel and table is also maths based. The maths I use are based on the teachings of Blaire Pascal.
What I know about computers could be written on the back of a postage stamp.
Having said that, VB is also an integral part of the way I play.
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My perception of the table is as follows:-
There are four sets of nine numbers per set.
The first nine (lowest) numbers are 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. (set one)
numbers 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18. (set two)
19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27. (set three)
28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36. (set four)
I then use the following maths to make each set 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.
10 (1+0)=1. 11 (1+1)=2. 12 (1+2)=3. and so on through to 36.
numbers 28 29 are reduced to one and two respectively. 28 (2+8)=10 (1+0)=1. 29 (2+9)=11 (1+1)=2.
I now have four identical sets of nine identical numbers. A perfectly ordered table.
It will be noted that all numbers in all sets are exactly the same distance apart on the table.
My perception of the wheel is as follows :-
My perfect sets of numbers are scattered around the wheel.
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When I look at the roulette wheel, I dont see numbers - just pockets with markings.
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Lol. You shouldn't be looking at the wheel Steve, you should be looking at the computor! ;)
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Just realised that my last post could be misconstrued.
I meant looking at the computer screen.
Meanwhile, I'll go and learn how to spell. !!
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From 9-5, I am almost always looking at a screen.
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I am always looking at touch screens ::)
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.. and that is about the limit you should say in a public area.
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I am always looking at touch screens ::)
why touch screens
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Better to take the discussion to private areas..
That sounded wrong. I mean take it to the player-only section.
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As the person who started this particular thread, I wholeheartedly agree that any comment(s) made should relate to A PERFECTLY ORGANISED TABLE. If they don't, then they should be discussed elswhere.
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hi pascal wc to the forum. I do not understand what you mean by what you said.
Are you saying there is order in the wheel layout that can be used in a special way?
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Hi Twister,
And thank you for your question. It tells me that you have at least thought about what I have said. But no, all I have said is that I see THE TABLE as PERFECTLY ORGANISED and the wheel as a scattered representation of the table. I also said that I would accept being prooved wrong.
You are correct in thinking there is more to it than has been said (if that IS what your thinking?) and of course there is a link between table and wheel, and there is definately organisation on the wheel that can be used in conjuction with the organised table.
Blaire Pascal was a highly educated man, anyone who thinks he scattered the 36 numbers around the wheel randomly is insulting that inteligence. Again, I will accept if I am prooven wrong.
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I dont know much about pascal. Can you summarise what he taught you?
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Twister,
Sorry mate, but I did say in my original post;
"However, please don't ask me to say why I believe what I have written as I will not answer that question on an open forum."
My original post was written with the hope that someone would proove me wrong, as opposed to me prooving myself to be right.
pascal
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Hello pascal. welcome here Are you a professional player? Do you play often?
where is information availanle about things you are saying so I can see myself?
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Maybe this is relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager)
I'm always interested in new methods, but it all comes down to increasing the accuracy of predictions.
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I'm always interested in new methods, but it all comes down to increasing the accuracy of predictions.
Quite right Steve, you keep on telling people, but as you also say, "they refuse to listen."
My original post wasn't intended as a means of prooving anything, it was simply to show my perception of A PERFECTLY ORGANISED TABLE.
As for anything else I have added in recent posts, all I will say is, Take a look at the POSITION of numbers 1, 11, 21, 28 in relation to the POSITION of other numbers on the wheel. Then take a look at the POSITION of numbers 1, 11, 21, 28 on the table. (For those of you that take the time to do that) would you be so kind as to let me know of anything of significance you noticed ?
I am sure everyone will agree, that the POSITION of the pocket in which the ball comes to rest is of paramount importance. Odd, Even, High, Low, all have a part to play in the overall scheme of things, but, POSITION RULES IN THIS WONDERFULL GAME.
Some players use devices that predict where the ball will come to rest, others prefer other means of prediction, Each to his own I say.
weebly,
"Am I a professional player"? lol no, but I have been accused of it. Yes, I attend a B+M CASINO at regular intervals but never the same one twice in one week.
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Pascal I look at what you said and its a square. The next thing I did was google those numbers and I found:
"Be still before the LORD
and wait patiently for him;
do not fret when people succeed in their ways,
when they carry out their wicked schemes. "
I give up. Are you trying to convert people to christianity?
I believe you that there is order to the roulette wheel. I know there are a lot of strange things about the wheel layout but I treat it like steve says which is another pocket I win win money on.
If you have specific ideas about wheel layout I'm all ears.
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Pascal I look at what you said and its a square. The next thing I did was google those numbers and I found:
"Be still before the LORD
and wait patiently for him;
do not fret when people succeed in their ways,
when they carry out their wicked schemes. "
I give up. Are you trying to convert people to christianity?
I believe you that there is order to the roulette wheel. I know there are a lot of strange things about the wheel layout but I treat it like steve says which is another pocket I win win money on.
;D ;D ;D Hello dizzy, ;D ;D ;D
LOL, brilliant post.!! But don't worry, I'm not on a mission to convert anyone :)
Thanks for taking a look at the numbered positions on the wheel, and you are absolutely correct about their formation. But would I be right in assuming that you thought that having found their positions, that was all there was to it, so to speak?
Take another look at the wheel dizzy, if you would, please. Take another look at that square and THINK about it.
Sorry if I am being a little obtuse, but I didn't intend for this thread to go this far.
I agree that the layout can be seen as a pocket you win money on, but..........
there are a lot of holes in it.
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all I see is the square. I guess I'm not thinking outside the square.
I am interested to know more. You can make shapes out of any numbers but the real question is why those numbers? Care to shed some light?
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Let me preface this post and I will do the same with some of my other early ones; I am a direct and to the point kind of person. I do not intend to flame, but sometimes my writing style sounds like I am. I apologize in advance if I come across rash or rude.
No idea if your perfectly organized table exists with a European wheel, but it does not exist with an American 0/00 wheel. The number arrangement is not the same. Accepting that math is a part of everything in the Universe; let me say that the use of any system that relies on the "direct" application of math is doomed to failure on Roulette. And your man Pascal is the perfect example that I am right!!!